“I think, particularly when you’re dealing with kink, if you’re treating the kink in an oblique way, or you’re panning away from it or whatever, then it feels like you as a filmmaker are casting judgement on it as something that deserves to be offscreen. Like it’s too scandalous for the screen. So I said, ‘We need to be able to see how these guys are fucking.’” – WBUR’s Arts & Culture, 02/12/2026